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Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Friday April 30 2004 9:11am
Pretty sure this will bring you to a 64-bit version of suse linux. ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/x86_64/9.1/suse/src/ Dunno if this is still something needed or not.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Wednesday April 28 2004 5:16pm
Lossless? Hey intrigue, if you get a second do you think you could download iTunes 4.5 and try the new Apple Lossless Compression? I recall you saying once that you're ears can pickup compression so I'z courious to know what you have to say about it.

Posted by: adam	Posted on: Wednesday April 28 2004 12:34am
If it were a week long party, I could come for the end of it.. As of right now, I'll be in London when the party is scheduled.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Tuesday April 27 2004 8:40pm
If you're serious about it I'm for some week long fragging action.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Tuesday April 27 2004 5:03pm
Knoppix is kewl.

Posted by: Intrigue

Posted on: Tuesday April 27 2004 12:26pm

another note to ALL THOSE LOOKING FOR A FULL TIME JOB!!

http://www.wideload.com/jobs.html

the makers of halo and a couple of other games, have had there lead programmers and designers break off from bungie, and they are creating a video game buisness model like the movie industry. they plan to develop dozens of prototype proof of concept games and try to find buyers to publish and offer up capitol to build a pipline and build the game.

Posted by: intrigue	Posted on: Tuesday April 27 2004 12:13pm
i am with dave, lets do a week long lan party!! we might be able to play earth and beyond ot world of warcraft or some mmog durring the week.

Posted by: Whisky_Drunk	Posted on: Monday April 26 2004 10:06pm
One corporate meeting down. (forced labor for 7am to 2:30 am) My body is withstanding the burden, but yet another week long ordeal awaits. Will I survive? (yes.) No one has a laptop that I could utilize? Oh well... yes, justin, the 29th is fine. Why don't we just have a Lan event from the 29th, TO the 5th? I will take the week off... ;) The games are good. Let's have some fun! Whisky_Drunk

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Monday April 26 2004 10:11am
Sorry guys...I promise this is the last time.... Can we do the LAN May 29 instead of June 5?

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Sunday April 25 2004 8:58am
Mmmmmmm.... garlic bagel.

Posted by: Big_Whisky	Posted on: Friday April 23 2004 3:37pm
So wrong...but it feels so right...so very right... Oh yeah. D.R.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Friday April 23 2004 9:35am
....Is it wrong for a student to want practice on something BEFORE they take an exam on it?

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Wednesday April 21 2004 9:34pm

there was a spark of hope, that maybe Half Life 2 might be out before the June LAN party...but now Doug Lombardi / Valve has said that a 2005 release is likely. Quite rediculous, really, since the game was supposedly ready for a 9/30/03 release up until the source leak. The webmaster for www.planethalflife.com has since resigned. I found his rant amusing.
www.forumplanet.com/planethalflife/topic.asp?fid=6549&tid=1352802
Thank the Maker for Unreal.

Posted by: Big_Whisky	Posted on: Wednesday April 21 2004 2:18pm
June 5 it is...whatever's left of me that is... Big_Whisky P.S. anyone have a laptop they would be willing to lend me for a very boring trip to Kansas?

Posted by: Big_Whisky	Posted on: Wednesday April 21 2004 2:18pm
June 5 it is...whatever's left of me that is... Big_Whisky P.S. anyone have a laptop they would be willing to lend me for a very boring trip to Kansas?

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Tuesday April 20 2004 9:35am
Ariving thursday night is perfectly fine. And yes, I'm fine with the June 5 date.

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Tuesday April 20 2004 1:08am

I tend to look forward to moving. The way i see it, I'm young and I have few chains these days. There are so many cool places to live in Milwaukee, living in the same place for more than a year seems like a waste.

I have secured 3 days for A-Cen, and I'm working on Thursday night. That way, we could rendezvous at Ze Compound late that night, instead of at the convention itself friday morning. Also eliminates the need for costly redundant parking. CrowScape, thoughts?

Also...is it settled, then? June 5th for the next LAN?

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Monday April 19 2004 5:50pm
Moving? Cool. I just advice not immitateing me and moving once every year as I seem to have been succesfully doing for the last 8 (Years I didn't move have been negated by my moving twice in a year. Like last!). And with my impending college graduation it looks like the tradition will continue. w00t!

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child

Posted on: Saturday April 17 2004 12:02pm

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/MelvinGoestoDinner-1127589/

OMG! Justin, they made your Fazolies/Sam's Club after-work-talks into a movie! And not too bad of one either. I was expecting more comedy from Bob Odenkirk but it was still most enjoyable. Direction was killer and the cinematography was appropraite. It's like you're at the next table tring to listen in on what these people are saying. Nifty watch if you have time.

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Friday April 16 2004 4:51pm

It's out. I'm so happy, I could weep. For joy!
http://www.beyondunreal.com/daedalus/singlepost.php?id=5441
We're getting Rabbit, now Fraghouse Invasion is back... UT2004 is teh greatest evah!
so...what did we decide for that LAN party? June 5th? Let's commit, shall we? Oh, and Intrigue and I are really close to deciding on our next apartment, and the leading candidate right now offers several vast improvements for LAN party accomodations, such as more parking and a huge 2-story party room. The future of SpooLAN looks bright indeed! Let us mobilize!

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Thursday April 15 2004 7:31pm

just in case there are any gamers here who haven't heard yet, the NV40 apparently "rocks" the "house".
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040414/index.html
for the media folk, there's an extra little bonus where this card is supposed to (finally) take over 2D video encoding/decoding tasks from the CPU. Of course, software support is a little behind, but apparently not too far (Adobe has already annouced support plans). If they get this working, the last advantage of the Pentium 4 architecture will finally crumble. I hope the NLE builders are paying attention.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child

Posted on: Wednesday April 14 2004 11:57am

I'm just working on a project for Studio III. It's a 12 page "trailer" for my next movie (Cause he wanted us to tell a story and this seemed like the PERFECT excuse for me to get off my arse and write the script.), tentitively titled Working Man, a la the Rush song.

I'll have to try the code later. I have an arthistoryforsucks paper I gotta SOMEHOW stretch to 4 pages. Man, I've been in college mostly on for the last 8 years, so one would think that would be easy what with the mad BS'in skillz I've aquired. Yeah, in theory that's true. But ya'll know the difference between theroy and practice.

OH! It has become abundantly clear that The Big Lebowski bowling isn't going to happen in Graphics. BUT 1 level of a office space 2k3 shooter a'la Star Fox should. The eneimes will attack in sin and maybe cos waves alone! I suppose I could rotate them though along the Z axis. Dunno. We'll have to see how much time I have to make it l33t.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Wednesday April 14 2004 1:43am
Last time! I promise! I made it WAY too complicated... well... too complicated if you don't really care about text browsers anyway. Here's all you need: .img {text-align:center;} .img img {margin:0 auto;} Then you can simply do the following in html: (div class="img")(img /)(/div) or (p class="img")(img /)(/p) Let me know if this works for you Mathew.

Posted by: CrowScape

Posted on: Tuesday April 13 2004 11:46pm

Alright, taking from where I left off, this WILL validate... and this time I'll be using () instead of the traditional brackets for the html. Again, this works in IE 6.0, Firefox, and Opera.

This example is for a centered image with a hyperlink that is nice to text-only browsers-

Here's the CSS:
#imgName{
list-style-type:none;
margin:0px;
text-align:center;
padding:0px;
}

#imgName li{
background:url("image") no-repeat;
height:imageheightpx;
margin:0 auto;
width:imagewidthpx;
}

#imgName span{display:none;}

#imgName a{
display:block;
cursor:pointer;
height:imageheightpx;
width:imagewidthpx;
}

Here's the "HTML":
(ul id="imgName")
(li)
(a href="http://www.amazon.com")(span)Alternate Text Here(/span)(/a)
(/li)
(/ul)

This might be adapted for use with heading tags encolsed in divs: (div)(h1)(span)(/span)(/h1)(/div). Whatever, it seems three elements are necessary for full compatibility.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Tuesday April 13 2004 11:15pm
Aw... my html code was disappeared... I shoulda known...

Posted by: CrowScape

Posted on: Tuesday April 13 2004 11:13pm

Ah, screw it, I'll just give you some code that should work. Redirecting IE browsers to firefox is not a good idea considering 80% of everyone is using IE. Like it or not, your page has to play nice with IE unless you're one of those "experimental" pages.

This solution is not "elegant", but it works in IE 6.0, Firefox, and Opera. I don't have a Mac so you'll have to test it on IE 5.0.

CSS code:
#imgName{
background:url("yourpathhere.imageextension") no-repeat;
height:imageheighthereinpx;
width:imagewidthhereinpx;
}

HTML implementation:

Now, if you want to have your centered image link to something;

The problem now is that on a mouse over the user will not have the pointer change to clue him in to the link, so you have to adjust your CSS code to the following:

#imgName{
background:url("yourpathhere.imageextension") no-repeat;
cursor:pointer;
height:imageheighthereinpx;
width:imagewidthhereinpx;
}

But now, unfortunately, we don't have any alternate text, I'm also not sure if this will validate as there is nothing in the span (you could probably add a space). You could try this with , having the text-align set to the ul, the li displaying the image, and then the span holding the alternate text with the style="display:none." I don't see why that wouldn't work, but who knows.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Tuesday April 13 2004 8:21pm
What webpage are you working on DBBQC? Maybe I could take a look at it and see what's up. I'm becoming quite adept at finding work-arounds.

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Tuesday April 13 2004 1:16pm
"Nodnol? Must be Bulgarian!"

Posted by: Dream BBQ Jesus

Posted on: Tuesday April 13 2004 11:14am

It's good to be back Crow.

I will, unfortuantely, not be making it to ACEN as I think I hinted at earlier. Severely low money levels mean I'm not leaving GB for a while. But with luck by the end of May I'll at least have some shit job cause I HIGHLY doubt I'll be finding a carrear one right away. But maybe once I'm actually a graduatate propsective employers will do more than give me an auto-resoponse when I submit my resume. At least at the moment I'm so swamped with schoolwork I can't care about anything but school. Sleep would be good though. As would the afformentioned fun with an f.

As for CSS and IE on a Mac, chances are it's not you. I had to write javascript functions, which I called IEForSucks naturally, to get my content to display right in IE there. As I learned getting TEXT to display in the middle of an xhtml page in IE is easy with text-align. Now doing that to an image with IE 5, that's hard.

At this point I'm thinking of all future pages I maintain I should write a script to detect IE and if it returns true I'll redirect them to firefox.

Gotta run. Must get some grease pizza with my parents's money from Rocky's then take Jazz History exam.

Oh and thank you again Justin for Red Dwarf. :) I did screen it in the Computer Science lab here and I forgot how funny Backwards was. I think I laughed hardest at that one.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 7:08pm
I have to say it's nice to see you back here Dream BBQ Child. I too have been having problems with IE on the Mac, although it involved the quality of my CSS code. I do want to talk about the whole jobs issue some more... but I think I'll wait for some downtime at a LAN or maybe ACen to discuss it.

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 6:19pm

Yikes! the 1337 levels are getting dangerously high around here...

Regarding Intrigue's comments about Welfare vs. Education, I recently taped a forum with Wisconsin Lt. Gov. Barbara Lawton regarding the status of women, and what the government's role should be (specifically how to help poor single mothers). A very interesting discussion started around the concept of, for lack of a better term, "Universal Child Care". Basically, instead of throwing free money at welfare moms with no strings attached, how about we take those funds and start a new kind of education reform. Currently, Wisconsin mothers get trapped in "workfare" because the little money they make goes straight into child care, making it impossible to save money and get out of poverty. If the government took care of that instead of writing checks directly to the mothers, perhaps the cycle could be broken. If additional funding is available, then day care could be expanded late into the night, allowing these single mothers to take classes at night without having to worry about their kids, allowing the possibility of better paying jobs in the future.

As the kids get older, "day care" morphs into regular school. Eligible mothers would then receive money based on the scholastic performance of their children. This would encourage them to take an active role in their child's education (by at least making sure they show up to class). When the child excels, the parent gets more money for their own education. It teaches responsibility for both, and might even foster the mentality that children are an asset, not a burden. Anything to salvage what little remains of the "American family", and hopefully avoid full prisons and Columbines in the future.

I think this makes a lot of sense, so naturally, both Political Parties are fleeing from it in terror, and Lawton isn't making much progress. But I thought it might be worth spreading the word. I'd rather see a big fat deduction in my paycheck for something like this than the impotent shit-programs we're running now.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 5:27pm
Ah, something must be pooched with my Safari cache or something. Camino works just fine cause I see things now. Okay, back to work. Me Vs. IE 5. Sigh. Stupid school and it's failed OS 9 Mac's. IE 5 + OS 9 may = more for sucks than Java.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 5:21pm
Helllooooooo! Why can't I see my last posts? Been jamming on refresh. Been minutes. Odd.

Posted by: Dream BBQ Child	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 5:20pm
Did the script eat my insanity?

Posted by: Dream BBQ Jesus

Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 5:16pm

Phree Tribes.

The gaming world is taunting me.

BUT I WILL HAVE AN ALIENWARE GAMING LAPTOP BY THE TIME TRIBES VENGANCE IS SHIPPING SO HELP ME! BWAHAHAHAH! Ph3ar my phree time phragging skillz!

There is no f there is only ph! Wait? Iph I typed f then f does exist does it not? But it's so much more phun to pretend it doesn't. ph phorever!

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha! Wait. Who are you? Your white coats are pretty clean. Wait! This pheels like a Napolian XIII song. No! You can't take me away! I don't want to go to the happy home! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Rephreanceing a completely unrelated song and band I want bagels! Bagles made of ediable oil!

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 12:52pm
Oh, and while on the subject of Tribes, I no longer have an excuse not to have Tribes or Tribes 2 on my computer: http://pc.ign.com/articles/505/505560p1.html?fromint=1 The short of it is; THEY'RE NOW FREE!

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 12:48pm
Justin: the presentation of all ancient writing has been "hopelessly twisted" to present certain agendas, yet that doesn't prevent us from using them substantialy to find out what happened way back when. The idea that history has to be an acurate retelling is purely a modern invention.

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 11:34am
and for us Tribes nostalgics... http://www.beyondunreal.com/daedalus/singlepost.php?id=5393 it's Rabbit for UT! Whoooooo!

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 11:26am
Intrigue should like this.... http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-04-12

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 11:20am

I'm not sure the Bible is a good "historical" record of anything. Sure, certain events are known to be based on real occurences, supported by archaeology and astronomy...but the Bible's presentation of them is hopelessly twisted by men to push a specific agenda (and then, of course, there's the translation dilemma). Part of the appeal of a MMOG seems to be it's unscripted nature; the ability of the players to shape the agenda dynamically...

"RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"
-- Colonel Mfume, "The Matrix Revolutions"
Yep, the dock battle still rocks, even on DVD.

Posted by: Intrigue

Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 10:55am

This is a combined thought, but it took place over several ideas this weekend.
1. Why as a culture dont we spend more on education than on welfare?
2. Why did we develop all of this vr technology and why dont we use it for education? (Mrs. Bosar, JB's Mom)
3. Why are we so willing to spend money on pre developed entertainment?
4. Why is the Matrix a good choice for an online MMOG?
5. If the Passion of Christ was a larger BOX OFFICE hit than the matrix, then does that mean that the Passion of Christ ONLINE might be an interesting place to make a virtual world?

For historical reasons, it might be cool to make a Virtual version of the bible that people could walk through?

I know that there are different interpritations of all of the events, but hey maybe that is part of it, you can pick and choose how you would like to look at it?

Posted by: Intrigue

Posted on: Monday April 12 2004 10:55am

Posted by: Dream BBQ Jesus

Posted on: Sunday April 11 2004 4:59pm

It's time I got back to the Good Life
It's time I got back, it's time I got back
'n I don't even know how I got off the track
I wanna go back, yeah!

--The Good Life, Weezer

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I'm tired of having phun hanging over my head! I wanna have some fun! I wanna go back man. Back to when I played so much Tribes I nearly caused an accident on Farwell cause I had to avoid a "mine" I saw in the road. This semseter man, but mostly art history, is for sucks. Like Java.

Posted by: Intrigue	Posted on: Friday April 9 2004 5:28pm
since june is one of the dryer months of the year and it should still be nice early june. does anyone want to set up on the patio???? this is more of a joke than serious, but i thought that it might be a fun sugestion??

Posted by: Dream BBQ Jesus	Posted on: Friday April 9 2004 2:11pm
borlandC++Builder6IsForSuks. I feel like a Korean animator from Clerks TAS. Well, back to work. If I'm good maybe I'll get to sleep this weekend. The good news, in approximately 2 hours EVERYTHING will be funny thanks to being overtired.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Thursday April 8 2004 2:51pm
First weekend of June works for me... it could even qualify as an early birthday party for me :) While on the topic of processors, it seems as though Intel is going to be altering its roadmap to base future desktop processors on the Pentium M, which is very good if true.

Posted by: justin

Posted on: Thursday April 8 2004 1:33pm

ok, now it looks like we're pushing back again. Dave is out of the state on 1st, and you just can't have a SpooLAN without Whiskey. So...start looking into the 1st weekend in June, please. Well, gives everyone plenty of time to buy UT2004 at least. I also found out that you don't actually need Unreal 2 installed to run XMP...you only need the CD for the installation check. So that saves a ton of time and space, so I'll be pushing for more of that at the next LAN. Also, word on the street is that Battlefield: Vietnam is mighty, mighty fine.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040318/index.html
if anyone is thinking up upgrading before then, the new FX-53 seems to be a winner. A pricey winner, but still far cheaper than P4EE. It also appears to be the most overclockable high-end processor available, if you're into that kind of thing. Me, I just like to know that it won't be overheating at it's recommended 2.4 ghz, since they pushed it to 2.6 with no additional cooling. Yippee!

At work we got word of 4-6 paying composites headed our way for a feature film [dance of joy]. To assist we're building an Opteron 146 box, so I'll make sure to see how that holds up under UT2004 at some point. Or, we could use it as a server since we're connected via DSL.

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Wednesday April 7 2004 5:38pm
29th I'd like to keep free for graduation parties, so the 1st is better. What say Baron Von Whiskey?

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Tuesday April 6 2004 11:43pm
Justin, the 9th of April is Mother's Day. I also will not be able to attend on that weekend. I suggest the 1st or 29th.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Tuesday April 6 2004 1:07am
Justin, you know how you were going on about how the voice of Dio in Last Exile was Knives... well, the voice of Claus is Vash.

Posted by: Adam	Posted on: Monday April 5 2004 10:22pm
I might be able to handle that... Speaking of graduation parties, I still have to find out when mine is. Also, xposted from Pulgari: BBSes returning? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/05/1322257 -A

Posted by: Anonymous	Posted on: Monday April 5 2004 8:48pm
JustinBosar:Spoolan V? MACbot: Dude? JustinBosar:Let's play! MACbot: Okee - hands Justin Bosar a melon. JustinBosar: eh? What the smeg?!?

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Monday April 5 2004 8:14pm
8 May 2004 - - SpooLAN \/ Let's try that instead of the 22nd for the following reasons: - There is an extremely good chance I'll have to attend 1-3 graduation parties the 22nd. - If the above does not occur, I will be paintball shooting with my employers. - Tequila is excellent. - The 22nd is definitely too far in the future. Thoughts?

Posted by: Big_Whiksy

Posted on: Monday April 5 2004 12:57pm

Hey all (especialy lucky Jim), I have a request for you all. Could you check out the AV8 forums (that's the event Kruger and I are trying to start up) and post questions and statements about media you are/trying to/want to create? That would be super. I want to start up a dialog, even though there really isn't one going on now. So if you could do that that would be great!

www.av8media.com / forums are "discuss it" link. / yes, the site looks really rough, but it will be smoother in a little bit.

Thanks all!
D.R.

Posted by: CrowScape	Posted on: Thursday April 1 2004 11:08pm
That's the pony I always wanted but my parents said I couldn't have it because I already have too many ponies... Four million lines of BASIC!

Posted by: justin	Posted on: Thursday April 1 2004 1:07pm
http://pc.ign.com/articles/503/503323p1.html get it while it's hot! personally, I can't wait. this alone makes Tribes 3 a must-have, even for those that hate Tribes. ;)

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